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You're Invited to Continue the Autism/Vaccines Debate on the Autism.About.Com Forum

From Lisa Jo Rudy, About.com GuideMarch 14, 2008

Dear Friends,

Yesterday, I posted a response to JB Handley of Generation Rescue on the subject of vaccines and autism. That post has generated more than 40 responses so far. Not only do commenters have strong feelings, but they are also addressing numerous different issues related to autism diagnoses, recovery from autism, and more.

These are important issues, and deserve open -- and courteous -- debate. In the interests of supporting that debate, I've started a thread on the autism.about.com forum. I'm hoping that commenters will not only add to that thread, but will also create new threads to focus on the many very different topics now being discussed.

Thanks, all, for your involvement in this site -- and for your passion! I look forward to continued spirited debate.

Comments
March 14, 2008 at 10:10 pm
(1) Anne Van Rensselaer says:

A future of “lively, spirited debate” gives me the willies. Why would anyone invite that? This is not high school debate time! What we need is solid, appropriate research, not a bunch of people thinking it’s a matter of winning an argument.My daughter, as all girl babies, was born with eggs formed from material from my body, all of it tainted with mercury and God only knows how much DDT, etc., so my grandchildren were hardly dependent on mercury in vaccines as their sole source of neurotoxins. It’s everywhere.

March 15, 2008 at 12:13 am
(2) C Connell says:

God love you Anne, healthy debate is always a good thing.

March 16, 2008 at 9:01 pm
(3) Peter says:

There is absolutely no argument about vaccine-thimerosal-autism link. Here are some facts:

There are no unvaccinated kids with autism
Thimerosal was never removed from all vaccines
Aluminum (another heavy metal with almost identical side-effects to mercury main ingredient of thimerosal) is still in ALL pediatric vaccines
States where thimerosal was removed from vaccines the autism rates went DOWN, almost disappeared in some cases.
Before 1989 only 5 vaccines were required for kids under the age 2, NOW 37.
Your child only needs one vaccine – POLIO and only after age of 2.
Blood Brain Barrier develops after age 2 providing extra protection, otherwise aluminum and mercury from thimerosal pass it into the brain creating neurological disorder such as autism and like.

Below is an example of populace that does not vaccine their kids and has ZERO autism cases:

The Amish
Christian Scientists
Naturalists
Polygamists
Parents who already have one autistic child and know the truth
Third-world countries with no immunization program.

One more interesting fact: in China word autism was absolutely unknown before 1992, after 1992 Chinese government initiated immunization program similar to ours – autism cases appeared and skyrocketed.

Demographic of US autism cases indicates that most of them occur in suburban/city area and not deep rural states, reason – limited access to pediatricians. No baby well visits no vaccines no autism.

CHECK THE FACTS FOR YOURSELF.

March 16, 2008 at 10:20 pm
(4) Mom says:

I hope I am not hurting your feelings but

Amish Vaccinate Amish who did and didn’t vaccinate have had autistic children but it was proven to be genetic. They actually find autism chromosomes by searching groups like Amish
For years autism has been misdiagnosed among the Amish as retardation or seizer disorders.
Naturists are nudists and some vaccinate some don’t.

Third world countries get autism but there few doctors to diagnose it and they have much higher death rates.
In most places you are not expected to get all 36 vaccinations many are optional. Some vaccinations are only for some regains of the country to fight regain specific disease.
Many parents who don’t vaccinate have autistic children. Many adults who weren’t vaccinated are getting diagnosed as autistic. There diagnosis was missed in childhood.
Autism rates have gone of 300% in parts of California and immunizations rose only 14%
In some places in CA rates are now up to %600 of autistic cases.

December 8, 2008 at 2:21 am
(5) Doc Mo says:

Re: Mom
Your information is grossly inaccurate, and I wonder if you didn’t run straight to your Pediatrician to get it. I hope for your children’s sakes that this does hurt your feelings, at least enough to push you to actually do a little research on your own. If you register for even one class at a community college you can attain access to many databases that you can use to actually look at the studies that have been done. I am actually mid-way through a biology paper and need to get back to finish it; but for the record, although accurate christian scientist autism rates are difficult to locate, there are in fact NO known cases of autism among the Amish. (That information comes from several Board of Medicine accredited doctors who actually treat the Amish.)

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